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Hi!

I’m just curious to know if peoples here would be interrested by renting adult (by adult i mean porn) movies? If they asked question about games renting i’m sure porn would have some renting possibility too.

Zero interest!

That is what the internet is for!

I think it would have been a good idea when ZIP first got started but accessing porn online is so easy now it hardly seems worth it in the long run. If I were Zip, I would just start a seperate online rental service dealing strictly in adult rentals and call it something else: Zoinks.ca

Could be a great potential here for zip and obviously it would have to be under a different name but I think there are enough big sites out there offering VOD and the possibility to stream or buy DVDs that you have to wonder if Zip could become a choice player in the porn distribution industry. Not to mention all the different sources all over offering free porn.

Yes, I’d be very interested in renting porn thru zip. I don’t trust porn websites and you always wind up with a shitload of email spam.

It could be an interesting idea.

I would be interested to rent a porn one in a while… but I would’nt pay extra to have this access

No, I don’t think I would create a second account from a separate site just for that either or pay extra for it. But, if adult films were added to the list of titles available on Zip, I probably would rent a few here and there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiuIbFQkgUM

/obligatory
//Can REX be renamed to Happy Scrappy?

I would be interested as well but I can’t see it happening. There are so many reactionaries in and out of the government that I suspect Zip wouldn’t want to make themselves vulnerable legally. I mean, movies are being confiscated at the border based on their titles:
http://jam.canoe.ca/Movies/2008/05/08/5518466.html

I know that Border Services are especially stupid when it comes to sex but I imagine Canada Post is just as bad. All they’d need is one complaint and Zip would be red-flagged and scrutinized to death. Can you imagine if my copy of Shaving Ryan’s Privates was accidently shipped to Kish, for example?

However, the perfect name for the service would be the obvious but still cool UnZip.ca.

Unzip… really cool name!!

Yeah, I like Unzip. Nice ring to it.

I don’t think zip would be in any trouble legally. They would need a different type of business licence to rent adult movies though. Plus I am sure common sense would dictate that they would up their security to make it extremely difficult for kids to rent movies.

Unzip would be wonderful. Most of the guys who say they wouldn’t rent it would be among the first customers.
Two problems with the idea, despite the easy money in it for Unzip:
1) Lawsuits when kids rent a few
2) Boycotts by church groups that want to control what you watch on TV.

Still it would allow zip to dip into a commodities market that has made millionairs out of more than a few men (and women)

I don’t think either of these would be a problem.

1) Lawsuits: Step 1: Age verification by credit card — good news, zip already has those. Step 2: 2nd password on the account to access adult titles, once per session. That way your kids can still rent regular movies. Or just keep your unsupervised kids off the computer… it’s called “parenting”.

2) The profits made on adult films would eclipse any minor loss from elitist religious fanatics trying to impose their beliefs on others. (Can you guess my views? )

It’s not about those problems, it’s all about politics.

Maybe you’d be interested in this? haha

This one’s better

Sorry marcl, but slowtalon wins, lol! Oh and that massage title, it’s been on order for, like, forever!

Just kidding of course, but it does beg the question, how long does a title have to be “on order” before I should just give up on it? I have a couple of zipped titles that have been showing that little truck icon for literally months. (Not to mention the ones with the perpetual “Soon” icon.) If they can’t get the DVD, shouldn’t they just say “no longer available” and be done with it? Are they keeping the titles open in case of some possible future re-issue? It’s just crazy.

EDIT: I found the thread that answered my question in the Zip Suggestions forum.

Yeah I have had a title at the top of my list that has had the truck icon since I joined its been over 2 years, nothing to do with prono but still…

Okay, let’s assume that Zip decides to change its policy and stocks adult movies. Are there actually any worth bothering to list?

Zip does have some ‘mature audience’ titles. Ages of Lulu, Shortbus, 9 Songs, Thriller, The Image, others. Do any adult titles actually measure up as films to Zip’s usual listings? I don’t watch the stuff so I really have no background to share here, but I did watch an episode of Porno Valley on Showcase one time and it looks like they’re shooting basically nude infomercials. Generic artless garbage. If that’s all there is, what would be the point in stocking it? Filmgal (I think) has been trying to get the Zip staff to stock The Killing Fields. Seems like a more worthwhile priority. [This from the person who incurred the wrath of McGuffin by reviewing Confessions of Lap Dancer.]

Speaking of long waits, I’ve been waiting to see Peking Opera Blues since 2004. I de-listed it for a while, because i got sick of looking at the truck symbol.

Superdave, I didnt watch many porn movie neither but I do like one in a while blockbuster hollywood movie inspired… like Pirate and Gladiator… those two had nice picture, cool girls and it didnt look like nude infomercial!

If you are going to expect art as you put it when watching porn then you obviously missed the point. Most people don’t really care how cheesy the movies look so long as they ” get the job done” . There are many reasons to watch porn as there are people. That’s part of what makes it a billion dollar industry (and that’s not mentioning all the “free” porn)

Well, I have nothing against porn movies, but there are already companies that are doing it, at least for the gay market. That being said, I do not care much for porn because when you have seen one of them, they are repetitive and tend to be always the same thing…The ones from Bel Ami (gay) are really good…

Eric6420, please let me know which companies offer gay adult DVDs for rent through the mail because I’m not aware of any.

kapon3:

a) we know this
b) YOU’RE missing the point

You acknowledge a multitude of motivations for watching porn yet dismiss cinematic quality rather than consider it one of them. Nobody here expects art in porn or is likely to confuse the two and nobody ‘put it’ that way either. Let’s start over.

Did anybody watch the documentary Inside Deep Throat? It chronicles not just the furor over that particular movie, but the political and legal backlash that has tracked the adult movie industry throughout its history. It’s actually quite fascinating. Back in the early 70’s the Nixon administration commissioned an independent study by leading social scientists into the effects of watching porn on social behavior. They found that there wasn’t any. This was politically inconvenient and potentially embarrassing for the administration, so the results of the study were not widely circulated. The adult movie industry, meanwhile, was busy going through an interesting transition, organizing up from the underground, illegal (ie. mafia) activity it had been for so long into at least marginal legitimacy and becoming increasingly cinematically ambitious. 70s style indie exploitation films with hardcore sex thrown in were commercially viable enough to make producers a lot of money and encourage them to tackle bigger projects. This was a potentially interesting cinematic development: violence and horror were getting increasingly explicit in genre movie making, why not sex? Then along came the Reagan administration which, not wanting to repeat the error of independent research, appointed the Meese Commission to ‘investigate’ porn in America with the specific purpose of coming to the pre-determined conclusion that it was evil. (There are several good books on this particular travesty, which I read back when I was an anti-censorship advocate. Man, was THAT tough racket. Taking on the religious right and the loony left at the same time. Yeesh.) Anyway, by setting restrictive legal guidelines as to what porn could contain and where and how it could be marketed, the Meese Commission did NOT succeed in stamping it out as it had hoped, but simply set a permanent cap on what an adult movie could be and how much it could cost if it wanted to make back its investment. The result was what Norman Mailer called in the documentary ‘a commodity and a mediocre one at that’.

The most interesting fact in the movie, however, is a notation that Hollywood makes on average about 300 moves annually while about 14,000 adult movies are made. A movie buff like me is going to watch about half to two-thirds of Hollywood’s output per year, about 3-4 movies a week. That would be an AWFUL lot of porn to watch and it would still be only 1% of what’s out there. THAT’S why I brought up the subject. If you don’t know the market (and I don’t) the numbers are stacked against you; and if there isn’t anything that would be of any interest or quality cinematically, why waste the time?

That was my exact thought a few years back after I first saw Boogie Nights. I loved that movie so much that I thought it might be fun to seek out one of the Johnny Wadd movies just to see what they were actually like (the Marky-Mark Walberg character is a thinly disguised version of John C. Holmes, as I understand it). Reviews in imdb.com, however, discouraged me and I never bothered.

Well, there is maledvd.net.

Well, that’s going to change my life Thanks!

Well, it wouldn’t bother me any if they offered adult movies, but I think they would lose more customers than they would gain if they offered adult movies. Some ppl don’t want to be associated with a company that offers porno.

” Some ppl don’t want to be associated with a company that offers porno” … !?!?!?
So those people don’t go in video club??? They almost have all porn section…!?!?

and they don’t use Internet??… There is alot of porn there…